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Starting with some <math>\,\! X(f)</math>, we want to derive a mathematical expression for <math>\,\! X(w)</math>
 
Starting with some <math>\,\! X(f)</math>, we want to derive a mathematical expression for <math>\,\! X(w)</math>
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Though we already know that it's just some shift/scale version with period 2*pi, here is the math behind it.
 
Though we already know that it's just some shift/scale version with period 2*pi, here is the math behind it.
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From the notes, we also know the relationship between <math>\,\! X(w)</math> and <math>\,\! X_s(f)</math>
 
From the notes, we also know the relationship between <math>\,\! X(w)</math> and <math>\,\! X_s(f)</math>
  
*<math>\,\! X(w) = X_s((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)</math>
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<p><math>\,\! X(w) = X_s((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)</math></p>
  
 
Rewriting <math>\,\! X_s(f)</math>
 
Rewriting <math>\,\! X_s(f)</math>
  
*<math>\,\! X_s(f) = FsX(f)*\sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}\delta(f-F_sk)</math>
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<math>\,\! X_s(f) = FsX(f)*\sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}\delta(f-F_sk)</math>
  
Substituting known relation  
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Substituting known relation
*<math>\,\! X(w) = FsX((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)*\sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}\delta((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s-F_sk)</math>
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<p><math>\,\! X(w) = FsX((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)*\sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}\delta((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s-F_sk)</math></p>
  
 
Using LTI, rearrange the equation
 
Using LTI, rearrange the equation
*<math>\,\! X(w) = Fs\sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}X((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)*\delta((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s-F_sk)</math>
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<p><math>\,\! X(w) = Fs\sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}X((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)*\delta((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s-F_sk)</math></p>
  
 
Re-arrange the delta function
 
Re-arrange the delta function
*<math>\,\! X(w) = Fs\sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}X((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)*\delta((\frac{F_s}{2\pi})(w-k2\pi))</math>
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<p><math>\,\! X(w) = Fs\sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}X((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)*\delta((\frac{F_s}{2\pi})(w-k2\pi))</math></p>
  
 
Using delta properties, you can take out the <math>(\frac{F_s}{2\pi})</math>
 
Using delta properties, you can take out the <math>(\frac{F_s}{2\pi})</math>
 
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<p><math>\,\! X(w) =Fs(\frac{2\pi}{F_s}) \sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}X((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)*\delta((w-k2\pi))</math></p>
*<math>\,\! X(w) =Fs(\frac{2\pi}{F_s}) \sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}X((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)*\delta((w-k2\pi))</math>
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The <math>F_s</math> will cancel and employ sifting to get
 
The <math>F_s</math> will cancel and employ sifting to get
*<math>\,\! X(w) =2\pi \sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}X((\frac{w-k2\pi}{2\pi})F_s)</math>
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<p><math>\,\! X(w) =2\pi \sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}X((\frac{w-k2\pi}{2\pi})F_s)</math></p>
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Now you can see how your X(f) is being scaled and shifted
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* I think what Myron is trying to show here is the relationship between the FT of a signal and the FT of a sampling of that signal. Anybdy sees a mistake? Perhaps one can rewrite this so it becomes a bit clearer. --[[User:Mboutin|Mboutin]] 16:22, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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* Note that the answer is given in Prof. Allebach's table. But somehow, the table's answer has a factor Fs in front of the summation. So most likely a factor Fs was dropped somewhere: can anybody find where? --[[User:Mboutin|Mboutin]] 16:35, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 12:35, 17 February 2009


Starting with some $ \,\! X(f) $, we want to derive a mathematical expression for $ \,\! X(w) $


Though we already know that it's just some shift/scale version with period 2*pi, here is the math behind it.


We know $ \,\! X_s(f) = FsRep_{Fs}[X(f)] $ from the discussion of $ \,\!x_s(t) = comb_t(x(t)) $


From the notes, we also know the relationship between $ \,\! X(w) $ and $ \,\! X_s(f) $

$ \,\! X(w) = X_s((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s) $

Rewriting $ \,\! X_s(f) $

$ \,\! X_s(f) = FsX(f)*\sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}\delta(f-F_sk) $

Substituting known relation

$ \,\! X(w) = FsX((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)*\sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}\delta((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s-F_sk) $

Using LTI, rearrange the equation

$ \,\! X(w) = Fs\sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}X((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)*\delta((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s-F_sk) $

Re-arrange the delta function

$ \,\! X(w) = Fs\sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}X((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)*\delta((\frac{F_s}{2\pi})(w-k2\pi)) $

Using delta properties, you can take out the $ (\frac{F_s}{2\pi}) $

$ \,\! X(w) =Fs(\frac{2\pi}{F_s}) \sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}X((\frac{w}{2\pi})F_s)*\delta((w-k2\pi)) $

The $ F_s $ will cancel and employ sifting to get

$ \,\! X(w) =2\pi \sum_{-\infty}^{\infty}X((\frac{w-k2\pi}{2\pi})F_s) $

Now you can see how your X(f) is being scaled and shifted

  • I think what Myron is trying to show here is the relationship between the FT of a signal and the FT of a sampling of that signal. Anybdy sees a mistake? Perhaps one can rewrite this so it becomes a bit clearer. --Mboutin 16:22, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Note that the answer is given in Prof. Allebach's table. But somehow, the table's answer has a factor Fs in front of the summation. So most likely a factor Fs was dropped somewhere: can anybody find where? --Mboutin 16:35, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

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