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I'm not sure if I've done this correctly in the first place. I would like your input before I actually attempt to inverse it.  
 
I'm not sure if I've done this correctly in the first place. I would like your input before I actually attempt to inverse it.  
Thank you. 
 
  
**I will type this out properly at some point.
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*http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/weirdly_cool/Untitled-2.jpg
[[Image:inverseatransformksoong.jpg]]
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:EDIT: I have realized at least that my ROCs have been backwards. I had understood it as trying to make the 1/z term go to zero to converge. Well, that's wrong.
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*Thank you.'''I tried the LaTeX but it failed miserably. '''
:~ksoong
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*Maybe it would be easier if you wrote it out while you were trying to help me, otherwise I can come in and see you on Monday.
  
Answer from Prof. MImi
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x[n] = a^n(u[n-2]+u[n])
*In the step where you replaced -n by k, you forgot to replace the n inside the summation. Also, the first sum should then go from -2 to -infinity, instead of infinity.
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*Actually, I do not see why you replaced -n by k in both sums. IN the first sum, you should have set k=n-2. In the second sum, you did not need to make any change of variable.
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*X(z) 
*The arrow in the middle of your computations, and the one towards the end should both be replaced by equal signs.
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*= sum[n=-inf,inf] of x[n]z^-n
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*= sum[n=-inf,fin] of a^n(u[n-2]+u[n])
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*= sum[n=2,inf] of a^n(z^-n) + sum[n=0,inf] of a^n(z^-n)
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*Let k = -n
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*Therefore, sum[k=-2,inf] of (a/z)^n + sum[k=0,inf] of (a/z)^n
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*= sum[k=0,inf] of [(a/z)^n + 2] + sum[k=0,inf] of (a/z)^n
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*= (1/1-a/z)+2 + (1/1-a/z)
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*= (z/z-a)+2 + (z/z-a)
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*= (z/z-a)+(2(z-a)/z-a) + (z/z-a)
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*= (4z-2a)/(z-a)
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*= (4-2a/z)/(1-a/z) for |z|>a
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**EDIT: so if I end up with something that says 1/1-(1/z), I am confused. does it converge when |z|<a or when |z|>a??
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*:~ksoong
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Answer from Prof. MImi  
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*In the step where you replaced -n by k, you forgot to replace the n inside the summation. Also, the first sum should then go from -2 to -infinity, instead of infinity.  
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*Actually, I do not see why you replaced -n by k in both sums. IN the first sum, you should have set k=n-2. In the second sum, you did not need to make any change of variable.  
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*The arrow in the middle of your computations, and the one towards the end should both be replaced by equal signs.  
 
*The simplification of the first summation following the arrow is incorrect: you would need to add two terms instead of just one.  
 
*The simplification of the first summation following the arrow is incorrect: you would need to add two terms instead of just one.  
*The equality following the arrow is only valid when |z|>|a|.You must write this next to the equality!
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*The equality following the arrow is only valid when |z|>|a|.You must write this next to the equality!  
 
*This explanation would be much clearer if you had typed in your answer: this way I could make notes directly inside the computations and cross-out and replace stuff using different colors.
 
*This explanation would be much clearer if you had typed in your answer: this way I could make notes directly inside the computations and cross-out and replace stuff using different colors.
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Revision as of 22:03, 11 September 2010

I'm not sure if I've done this correctly in the first place. I would like your input before I actually attempt to inverse it.

  • Untitled-2.jpg
  • Thank you.I tried the LaTeX but it failed miserably.
  • Maybe it would be easier if you wrote it out while you were trying to help me, otherwise I can come in and see you on Monday.

x[n] = a^n(u[n-2]+u[n])

  • X(z) 
  • = sum[n=-inf,inf] of x[n]z^-n
  • = sum[n=-inf,fin] of a^n(u[n-2]+u[n])
  • = sum[n=2,inf] of a^n(z^-n) + sum[n=0,inf] of a^n(z^-n)
  • Let k = -n
  • Therefore, sum[k=-2,inf] of (a/z)^n + sum[k=0,inf] of (a/z)^n
  • = sum[k=0,inf] of [(a/z)^n + 2] + sum[k=0,inf] of (a/z)^n
  • = (1/1-a/z)+2 + (1/1-a/z)
  • = (z/z-a)+2 + (z/z-a)
  • = (z/z-a)+(2(z-a)/z-a) + (z/z-a)
  • = (4z-2a)/(z-a)
  • = (4-2a/z)/(1-a/z) for |z|>a
    • EDIT: so if I end up with something that says 1/1-(1/z), I am confused. does it converge when |z|<a or when |z|>a??
    ~ksoong

Answer from Prof. MImi

  • In the step where you replaced -n by k, you forgot to replace the n inside the summation. Also, the first sum should then go from -2 to -infinity, instead of infinity.
  • Actually, I do not see why you replaced -n by k in both sums. IN the first sum, you should have set k=n-2. In the second sum, you did not need to make any change of variable.
  • The arrow in the middle of your computations, and the one towards the end should both be replaced by equal signs.
  • The simplification of the first summation following the arrow is incorrect: you would need to add two terms instead of just one.
  • The equality following the arrow is only valid when |z|>|a|.You must write this next to the equality!
  • This explanation would be much clearer if you had typed in your answer: this way I could make notes directly inside the computations and cross-out and replace stuff using different colors.

Anybody sees anything else? Do you have more questions?


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