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For #16, I am just not sure how u can eliminate the 3 constants in front of cos, cosh, and sinh to be zero...
 
Just to be sure, we equate F(0) and F''(0) and equate F(L) and F''(L) correct? With this I get that A+C = -(beta^2)*(A+C). How can we assume both A and C are zero?
 
For the second equation, I am not at all sure how the sinh coefficient goes to zero...I am getting A = -A*beta^2, B = -B*beta^2, and so forth...suggestions?
 
 
 
 
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For #8 of p. 556, I am having difficulties finding the solution for this in terms of what should happen with ''t''... I realize that it must meet the IC's and the BC's but I can't figure out a periodic type solution that would vibrate for ''t''>0 Thanks!  
 
For #8 of p. 556, I am having difficulties finding the solution for this in terms of what should happen with ''t''... I realize that it must meet the IC's and the BC's but I can't figure out a periodic type solution that would vibrate for ''t''>0 Thanks!  
  
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For #16, I am just not sure how u can eliminate the 3 constants in front of cos, cosh, and sinh to be zero...
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Just to be sure, we equate F(0) and F''(0) and equate F(L) and F''(L) correct? With this I get that A+C = -(beta^2)*(A+C). How can we assume both A and C are zero?
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For the second equation, I am not at all sure how the sinh coefficient goes to zero...I am getting A = -A*beta^2, B = -B*beta^2, and so forth...suggestions?
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Just solve F(0)=0 to get the value of C. Then plug that C into the equation for the second derivative of F at x=0. This will allow you to determine that A and C are equal to zero. Then do essentially the same process for F(L) and its corresponding second derivative. Hope this helps.
 
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Homework 11 collaboration area

When is this homework due? I don't see any annoucement on the webpage.

From Eun Young:

it's due Wed. 11/20 (See Lesson 36).


From Farhan: Any hint on how to go about #16 of 12.3?

From Eun Young :

We already have F(x) and G(t) from #15.

Using the given conditions, we need to compute coefficients and find $ \beta $.

We have $ F(0)=F(L)=F^{''}(0)= F(L)^{''}= 0. $

Using $ F(0)=F^{''}(0)=0 $, we can show that the coefficients of cos and cosh functions are zero.

Using $ F(L)=F^{''}(L)=0 $, we can show that the coefficient of sinh is zero.

Hence, $ F(X) = \sin (\beta x) $.

Using $ F^{''}(L)=0 $, we can find $ \beta $.

Plug this $ \beta $ into G(t) and use the zero initial velocity condition, then we'll get G(t).



From Craig:

For #15 on 12.3, are we supposed to show the work for each of the end conditions, or only part a (simply supported)?

From Eun Young:

You do not need boundary conditions for #15. See Lesson 38 to get some hints.


Question by Ryan Russon: For #8 of p. 556, I am having difficulties finding the solution for this in terms of what should happen with t... I realize that it must meet the IC's and the BC's but I can't figure out a periodic type solution that would vibrate for t>0 Thanks!



For #16, I am just not sure how u can eliminate the 3 constants in front of cos, cosh, and sinh to be zero... Just to be sure, we equate F(0) and F(0) and equate F(L) and F(L) correct? With this I get that A+C = -(beta^2)*(A+C). How can we assume both A and C are zero? For the second equation, I am not at all sure how the sinh coefficient goes to zero...I am getting A = -A*beta^2, B = -B*beta^2, and so forth...suggestions?

--From Collier Miers: Just solve F(0)=0 to get the value of C. Then plug that C into the equation for the second derivative of F at x=0. This will allow you to determine that A and C are equal to zero. Then do essentially the same process for F(L) and its corresponding second derivative. Hope this helps.


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