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We know that <math>x[n]\delta [n-k] = x[k]\delta [n-k]</math>
 
We know that <math>x[n]\delta [n-k] = x[k]\delta [n-k]</math>
  
Then: using <math> x[n]=n <\math> and <math> k=0 </math> we get:
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Then: using <math>x[n]=n</math> and <math> k=0 </math> we get:
 
<math>\sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty n \delta [n] = \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty 0 \delta [n] = 0</math>
 
<math>\sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty n \delta [n] = \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty 0 \delta [n] = 0</math>
 
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Simplify this summation

$ \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty n \delta [n]  $

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Answer 1

The answer is 0 ?

Instructor's comment: Yes, it's zero. Can you justify your answer? -pm

Answer 2

The delta function is zero everywhere except when n=0 and since we are multiplying the delta by n the answer would thus be 0.

Instructor's comment: Yes, that's the idea. Now can you justify your answer "in math" instead of "in words"? -pm

Answer 3

The answer is zero since impulse function is 0 everywhere except n = 0.

Instructor's comments: Ok, I guess I am going to have to be a bit more specific. I would like to see a way to answer this question as a sequence of small changes to this expression until you get to zero. Something like
$ \begin{align} \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty n \delta [n] &= \text{ blah } \\ &= \text{ blih} \\ &= 0 \end{align} $
Can you try that? -pm

Answer 4

$ \begin{align} \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty n \delta [n] &= ...(-2)\delta[-2] + (-1)\delta[-1] + 0\delta[0] + \delta[1] + 2\delta[2] ... \\ &= ...(-2)\cdot 0 + (-1)\cdot 0 + 0\cdot 1 + 0 + 2\cdot 0... \\ &= ...0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0... \\ &= 0 \end{align} $
Instructor's comments: It's awesome to see Purdue alums participate in this collective problem solving! As expected from a graduate of our ECE program, this solution does not contain any mistake. Now a challenge: can anybody do it without using any "dot dot dot"? -pm

Answer 5

Unless you want a deeper proof of the discrete sifting property:

$ \begin{align} \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty f[n] \delta [k-n] &= f[k] \Rightarrow \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty f[n] \delta [k-n] \Bigg|_{f[n]=n, \ k=0} = \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty n \delta [n] = 0 \end{align} $
Instructor's comments: You correctly observed that the sifting property applies in this case. Good job! Your answer is correct, but perhaps it would flow better (more logically) if you changed the other of the first two inequalities:
$ \begin{align} \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty f[n] \delta [k-n] &= f[k] \text{ (sifting property)}\\ \Rightarrow\sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty n \delta [n] &= \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty f[n] \delta [k-n] \Bigg|_{f[n] =n, \ k=0} &= 0 \end{align} $

Instructor's comment: Can anybody write a solution based on this little "trick" I have used several times in class already? -pm


Answer 6

We know that $ x[n]\delta [n-k] = x[k]\delta [n-k] $

Then: using $ x[n]=n $ and $ k=0 $ we get: $ \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty n \delta [n] = \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty 0 \delta [n] = 0 $


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